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president and his traveling press pool? they're more on-again, off-again than the hot water in my apartment. seriously landlord guy, let's figure this out. the herd of reporters is always complaining that the president doesn't give them enough face time. it's like the episode of the bachelor only no one is hot. then news hit the fan, the president allowed the press to cover his game with tiger woods. i see the president's point. i mean, who won? what did they wear? did either of them put from the rough literally. but this president's day weekend our president won the press corp back how? according to the pool reporters scott wilson the president came
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back byto the back of the air force one and spoke ten minutes off the record. this is as try as true as giving them more free food. the only thing that the press likes more is juicy information is information so juicy they can't tell anyone about it. where do they go from here? no one knows, but i have a feelingfeeling this golf excursion is not the last time the president flips the press the birdie. i'm done talking now. >> michael: thanks brett. someone is always in our war room. check us out online at current.com/the war room and check out our exclusive web extras. have a great night and we'll see you back here tomorrow night. cenk: welcome back to "the young
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turks." all of a sudden in washington, d.c., we got a new sheriff in town, elizabeth warren. >> the question i really want to ask is about how tough you are. my question is when did you bring him to trial? the question i'm really asking is can you identify when you last took the wall street banks to trial? cenk: awesome! and boy, do we need her because i've got other stories about how the banks are trying to rob us blind and the regulators are actually helping them. it's about time she held them accountable. we've got an amazing movie coming out about whistle blowers and how the obama administration is cracking down on them. >> would you call it torture? >> waterboarding is something we shouldn't be in the business of doing. >> i was the first to confirm the water board torture on prisoners. >> i was about an hour into the interview i realized wait a minute, they're investigating me. cenk: amazing story.
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speaking of amazing the koch brothers, do you know they have been planning the tea party since 2002 that grassroots uprising? we've got the evidence, later in the show. we'll end on a fun note. are l.a. women unbearable? how's that for fun? go time. ♪ theme ♪ cenk: did you hear what i said earlier? we got a new sheriff in town! senator elizabeth warren, from the great state of massachusetts. they got the bank regulators in thursday. everybody was expecting softballs, as usual. rock again bob. sheriff warren's in town. >> now i know there have been some landmark settlements, but
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we face special issues with financial institutions. if they can break the law and drag in billions in profits and then turn around and settle, paying out of those profits. they don't have enough incentive to follow the law. cenk: that's 100% right so these regulators haven't had they are feet held to the fire in a long time and didn't know how to rating to it. here was my favorite question. >> so, the question i really want to ask is about how tough you are about how much leverage you really have in these settlements and what i'd like to know is tell me a little bit about the last few times you've taken the biggest financial institutions on wall street all the way to a trial. [ applause ] >> anybody? cenk: anybody? she's still wait forego an answer. the real answer, none of them can name the last time they took
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any of the bankers to trial. none of them! that's amazing! now remember, as junior senator liz belt warren according to conventional wisdom is just spes to be quiet. when they told her that, she said that's a negative ghost writer. that's not how she's playing it and as my mom would say thank god. david as seroda, joins us from colorado. he's the author of "back to our future." first, lets talk about elizabeth warren. i want to play one more clip. we showed the audience how she was tough on the regulators, but they always say we couldn't go to trial, it would be so hard, so here was her response to that and then we'll come back and talk about it. >> i just want to note on this, there are district attorneys and u.s. attorneys who are out there
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every day squeezing ordinary citizens on sometimes very thin grounds, and taking them to trial in order to make an example, as they put it. i'm really concerned that too big to fail has become too big for trial. that just seems wrong to me. cenk: so david look, if we said this in washington d.c., that power establishment doesn't hold itself accountable under any circumstances but will crush the average guy, you'd get laughed out of the room, saying oh oh, come on, that's so conspirator yell, you're case dawg. is elizabeth warren right there's two standards depending whether you're rich and powerful. >> she's exactly right. we can see that on the hsby bank in which the u.s. government let off this huge bank doing business with criminals, drug cartels and terrorists, and the justice department, the obama justice
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department essentially let that bank off the hook without a single prosecution of an executive, without prosecuting the company as a whole settling with that company at the same time our government said it's tough on individual criminals. i think it's really obvious that there is a different standard. here's the thing. pbs front line explained why there is that difference. the u.s. government is becoming more open about that, it says that the top prosecutor at the justice department said we have to be concerned with the economic impact of prosecuting big financial ins fashions. tostags institutions. prosecutors should be in the business of enforcing the law not in the way saying if you're a big dog, we're not going to go after you because we're worried about the prosecutors. cenk: "the new york times" said the prosecutors might dip their toe in the water in the subsidiary, but not the parent
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company, because god forbid, if you do something to the parent company, that might endanger in the economy. they're saying you get a get out of jail free card. elizabeth warren wrote he about this. i wanted to give a quote from one of the executives at these financial companies and they be have you talk about what it means. he says perhaps someone ought to remind the senator the campaign is over, and she should act accordingly if she wants to be taken seriously. decipher that for me. >> well, i mean, look, the conventional wisdom in washington, and remember, washington is a place that runs on money. money from executives like you just quoted, so the conventional wisdom that that money creates is you can only be serious in washington if you don't ask tough questions of big money. so campaign contributions go in to legislators and the media relies on all sorts of corporate connections to fund it essentially itself, and so the
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notion of seriousness is wholly manufactured to say that somebody like elizabeth warren who asked a clearly straight forward question, why haven't you prosecuted these people to take that question and say that's not serious. what's unserious is the notion that a senator shouldn't ask questions, very simple questions about why the justice democratic hasn't prosecuted people connected to the biggest financial meltdown in contemporary history. cenk: you wrote about how there's a different between how the press treats first time democratic senators as opposed to first time republican senators. that's really interesting. tell us about that. >> right approximate you've heard a lot about ted cruz, the senator from chicken, the tea party senator, "the new york times," big glowing quote about how he's a fire brand washington's bad boy because he's on the right. when it comes to democratic senators, what you hear is please follow the hillary clinton model this notion she
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came in and had star power and laid low and didn't do very much, same thing for barack obama in the u.s. senate. so the expectation, if not the mandate for liberal senators is follow this employed he will that says sit down and shut up. the encouraging thing about elizabeth warren is she is saying i'm going to play rules is i am here as a senator. i campaigned on these things. shies effectively say i go made promises to voters about what i would stand up for and the serious thing to do is to stand up for those things and fulfill those pledges when i'm in office. cenk: i think part of what that executive is saying is hales know your role. your roam as a democratic is to pretend to be progressive during the elections but once the election is over, your role is to work for us, the financial executives. secondly, the democrats are paid to shut up and the republicans paid to run wild.
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that's how we get the imbalance policy that we winds up getting not political results in terms of who wins, but policy results. do you think this is a game where the democrats are supposed to lose on policy grounds, the republicans are supposed to win and that this is how they enforce snit. >> that's exactly right. you can trace as the best example the 2008 presidential campaign when president obama campaigned on the most progressive platform of any presidential candidate successful presidential candidate in presidential history and then proceeds to ignore many of his campaign promises. at one point, he said about a trade treaty, the nafta trade treaty, he said essentially after he won said i was only kidding that i was essentially going to renegotiate that treaty. i throw that out there that there is this wink and nod where money's interest funding cam pages saying we know you have to go and campaign in a certain way to win votes but
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the expectation is when you get to washington, you ignore everything you said on the campaign trail. cenk: well, that's why a lot of progressives are excited about elizabeth warren, because she doesn't seem to be playing that game, unlike hillary clinton barack obama and by the way a person who's largely been a failure so far al franken. he played that role, he first term, you shut up, bow your head and just play along. >> let me just add one thing. i hope that elizabeth warren changes the dynamic. i hope that she is seen as an example of a path that can be followed by other good, earnest liberal senators who maybe can see an incentive in saying i'm not going to play by the old rules, i'm going to play by the rules that if liz we got warren can play by, so can i. cenk: thank you for joining us. >> thanks, cenk. cenk: when we come back, here comes as i am to know bowls again, these are the guys trying to do the grand bargain where
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you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers
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thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? cenk: all right, we're back on "the young turks." the sequester is coming, everybody panic. president obama is actually incite be a little panic, saying the cuts will be drastic and the better approach is the balanced approach. here's the president. obama: >> now the congress faces a simple choice. are they willing to compromise to protect vital investments in health care and national security and all the jobs that
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depend on them or would they put hundreds of thousands of jobs to put tax loopholes that face the wealthiest and corporations. cenk: it sounds great if the president actually meant it. he has always been in favor of the simpson-bowles commission, it's his commission. alice simpson is the republican, bowls the investment banker former chief of staff for bill clinton. they want to cut social security and medicare. they were doing a presentation and a heckler busted it. >> pay your fair taxes. america wants to know. pay your fair taxes. >> go ahead and address this point. >> excuse me. >> we agree. >> if you look at where the tax expenditures paid, they're generally paid by people in the upper income brackets. >> that's absolutely not true. we have major corporations and
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you're part of that that are not paying their fair share. $2 trillion in the last 10 years. cenk: now, look, i'm not a big fan of heckling, but i believe on the facts they were right. the corporations are avoiding giant amount of taxes but we're going after social security and medicare as big pat of the cuts. bowls explains. >> there's no business in the country that makes its cuts across the board. you go in there and you try to surgically cut those things that have the least adverse effect on productivity, second you're cutting those areas where we need to invest, education infrastructure research and third, they don't make any cuts in those things growing faster than the economy with that that's stupid, stupid, stupid. cenk: he's saying do not do the sequester, because half that money comes from defense don't touch it! let's go after social security and medicare. i don't trust this group one bit. meanwhile, alice simpson says
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the magic words that president obama cares most about. >> he knows what to do, and if he doesn't get a handle on the entitlements and social security, he will have a failed presidency. cenk: oh, you better watch out for your legacy, if you're going to be a really good democratic president, you screw over democratic voters. the white house in the latest round of budget talks say they want another one and a half trillion dollars of deficit reduction. the g.o.p. says no, 4 million. the new simpson-bowles said we should do $2.4 trillion more. a chain c.p.i. is fancy words for cutting social security. in the old proposal, simpson-bowles when first got together had a one to one ratio
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on spending doubts tax increases. now it's three to one. if you didn't like simpson-bowles before, you're not going to like the new one either. let's bring in michael shore and patrick rice. the president is putting out scary language about the quester. honestly i'm a little skeptical, but you tell me. how big are the cuts going to be and are they more concerned about the discretionary spending cuts or in washington, are they really more concerned about the defense cuts? >> i think that depends which part you look at. there are certainly a block of democratic party furious about this. they feel the chained c.p.i. is a back doorway to cut social security. there's a block clotter to the middle who sort of taken the
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idea that austerity is the direction we need to go in right now. on the right you've seen some shifting. for a long time, defense spending was unturnable but after demanding spending cuts, it's a difficult time, as the republicans say wait a minute, not these spending cuts. there's real momentum for this sequester going forward. the question is will it go forward in full or will there be some compromise in which some parts don't go forward and the burden of cuts is redirecting. cenk: that's important the republicans all of a sudden saying hey these defense cuts, we might have to do them. it's a little shocking, actually. michael, are they bluffing in order to get the president to go ok, i don't want to do them either, or is it real that they're willing to say if it means we get half the cuts from discretionary spending and half from defense, do the republicans mean it that they're willing to take that deal? >> it's meeting halfway. there's a little disarray in the republican party. of course, everybody's out of
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town now. congress is away, so the president right now is there by himself. he's got first responders around him, telling him what's going to go wrong. he is standing there with the bully pulpit with no one left to respond. you look at ther oh side, the republicans are passing the buck both to the president john boehner to the senate. this is what has been hurting the republicans. that's why they've losten oh the debt ceiling on the fiscal cliff. the idea here that this is going to, you know, kind of sway the president with the republicans i don't think it's a matter of surveying him. i think it's a matter of him owning it and there's no unified response, it's only a win-win for him. cenk: interesting. patrick, it's a real interesting question as to what the progressives should want more. he made the point they are split at this point. a remove people call themselves progressives, but they're
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thought, they're just democrats. i want to show you some of the numbers on the chained c.p.i. and ask you where people should stand on this. social security cuts with the chained c.n.i. over oh 10 years is $112 billion in cuts. that's significant. over oh 12 years it costs you $1,272. that's going to hurt some folks. over 30 years you wind up losing $28,000 from your social security. now that's a long time, 30 years but obviously people are not happy about that on the progressive side. that's in the bowls simpson plan. the president cuts a lot from discretionary spending. what's better or worse if you're a progressive? >> it's a nuance argument from both sides, people in favor of the chained c.p.i. said you do
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see less money, but calculating how much that's worth to you in terms of the basket of goods that you can buy with that, it changes the form are a for calculating how inflation goes and how much things are really costing senior citizens and other recipients of entitlement programs. if you're a progressive, you're probably more oh skeptical answering that this is a lot of washington speak. what the bottom line is, this is taking a cult out of entitlement programs that i think most progressives would much prefer to see cut somewhere else. cenk: michael, i understand that these are put forward as the two options. now, again if your a progressive, you don't like either option. in you at least the sequester half the cuts come from defense but the other half of across the board and there's a lot of pain as the president explains. i at least believe him halfway on that. ok. nowen oh simpson-bowles, it's 3-1 in favor of spending cuts
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versus tax and it cuts medicare, medicaid, social security. why doesn't the president introduce a third option with a progressive caucus option, one of doesn't have any of this, that says hey, wait a minute, it should come so much more from all the loopholes and the corporate taxes and what the hecklers were talking about. >> i'm guessing that that's a rhetorical question, because you know the president you're dealing with. he's not going to do that. i don't think he's going to allow alice simpson define his presidency and legacy. i don't think he's scared by simpson's words. cenk: that's where you and i disagree. i think obama's obsessed with his legacy. i believe he thinks his legacy depends on making sure that he defies his voters, his base, and that he cuts entitlements so he can look like a hero to washington. >> well, he probably also thinks that his base was redefined last
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november that his base is not you all the time. i don't disagree with you. i think every second term president is consumed by their legacy. i think he sees a way out of this politically and sees victory without having to do the things that he might otherwise have had to do because of what'sen oh the other side. listening to what patrick's saying that's really compelling stuff. i don't think for progressives you also want to look past the defense. when the progressives see defense cuts, they love defense cuts. that's what the sequestration's been all about. few the president's going even further to appeal to the republicans to say these first responders sitting behind me right now are all going to be out of a job. it's a one-way conversation, because everybody's on conversation. cenk: me personally, i take the sequester over simpson-bowles, protecting medicare, medicaid, social security and at least half the cuts come from defense.
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you know if you know this, but i'm not running washington. patrick rice, michael shure great conversation. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me on. cenk: whistle blowers. we're supposed to be in the most transparent administration in history, according to the president, so then boy, we should be protecting whistle blowers, right? wrong again bob. this administration is cracking down on them harder literally than any previous administration in american history. >> i never thought of myself as a whistle blower. sometimes i go back and forth in my mind where i wish i had kept my mouth shut ander times i wish that i had shouted it from the rooftops.
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cenk: here's one thing i know he about the obama administration. it is the most transparent administration in history. how do i know that? the president keeps telling me, as he did again last thursday. >> on a whole bunch of fronts, weaver kept that promise. this is the most transparent administration in history. cenk: oh well, if you say so. in you there's a new movie coming out called eye silence" that might disagree. they talked to four whistle blowers that this administration cracked down on because they dared to reveal administration about the most transparent administration in history. here's a part of the movie. >> the pap rat at us of the u.s. government was turned against me. every phone call you've ever made, emails you've sent, bank records, tax statements. >> what has happened to my
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family is a very tormented existence. >> you're not loyal you're not a good american, you're a terrorist sympathizer. >> that secrecy regime despite president obama's pledges of transparency has only continued to expand. >> i'm not the pushover that these guys think i am. i'm as tough as they are and i'm going to fight. cenk: well, unfortunately he's lost that tight to some degree, he's about to go to prison. he revealed the tort u. program. how dare he! we're going to bring in two people to talk about this. it's great to have both of you here. james, let me start with you. the president said on the issue of torture, he was only going to
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look forward but when it came to a whistle blower, he seemed to have looked backward, didn't he? >> well, yeah, that's right and mr. kirakue isn't the only one. the obama has invoked the espionage act now six times more than every other presidency combined. they are charging people with this, using this act to charge people not for leaking information to a foreign country for some sort of profit, but for talking to the press so it's both kind of a worrisome crackdown on whistle blowers and kind of a back doorway to limit access to the press. i think people are starting to notice that. cenk: lindsey, you know, when you went to go publish your book, the c.i.a. i imagine went over it with a fine-toothed
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comb, but are things getting more strident and stringent over the last 10-15 years or so, or has the government always gone after anybody that revealed any information with a sledgehammer like they are today? >> well, i think clearly that it's becoming a lot worse for whistle blowers. let me say that working at the c.i.a.o.n.s.a. is probably an almost impossible environment for anyone who plans to blow the whistle on a program that is either seen add immoral or unethical. the woman who recruited me to work, her telling me if you ever sense that something's wrong you need to tell someone you need to tell a superior at the agency. yet it quickly became evident that really you had no recourse
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if you thought that something was wrong, or if you disagreed with policies. you had only one option, which was to approach an agency lawyer and the job of an agency lawyer is really to protect the agency. cenk: yeah, you know, i did seems to me based on, you know, my 17 years of covering politics, it has gotten substantially worse. you know, the government seems to be rigged and if you point it out in any way that's when they fall on you like a ton of bricks, while the banks torturers all get a get out of jail free card. to that point it's not just kirakue. tell me about the other three people in your movie. >> there are three other whistle blowers, probably the most well known is thomas drake who worked for the national security agency at a very senior level. i believe he was the first one
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hit by the obama administration with charges including espionage act charges. in his case, it was related to releasing information about warrantless wiretapping, which actually started during the bush administration, and tom drake you know, tried to, two of your other guests pointed go through all the proper channels for years, tried to alert people to the problems with this program its illegality, the wastefulness, the gigantic amounts of money being spent to no avoluntarily. with no other recourse, he approached a reporter for the baltimore sun and with, mind you, he was so buttoned up about it, he only made sure that he was releasing no one classified information, but too bad for him, because his home was raided. he was hit with 10 are oh 11 charges, which could have resulted in 35 years in prison. he was a textbook whistle
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blower. he did everything by the book. the government eventually lost most of those charges were dropped. tom drake ended up pleading guilty to a very minor charge, but in a way the mission was accomplished, because he was saddled with hundreds of thuses of dollars in legal bills because of this one conviction on the minor charge, he can't work in government again. he can't work for a government contractor again. they take people like this, and they destroy them. those aren't my words. those are the words of tom drake. cenk: lindsey, i want to play one more clip from the movie here. i think it's really powerful. i want to ask you about if there's any difference between bush and obama on this front. >> the only person who's going to prison for having anything related to do with the torture regime is the guy who blue the whistle. those who did it aren't going to prison. those who conceived of the
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torture aren't going to prison. cenk: i did we go any changes from the obama administration or are they helping the bush administration cover this up? >> they seem to be per peat waiting the cover up. kirakue pointed out that obama has really surrounded himself with the same intelligence advisors that bush had and even though obama ostensibly opposed the at thure program calling for the closure have guantanamo, which we have not seen happen, this administration is really going after whistle blowers and kind of making an example in this case. it's kind of when we join the agency we swear an oath to defendant and protect the constitution, not the c.i.a. and not any particular administration. so it's very troubling to see
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what happens when someone tries to speak out and say you know, i'm being asked to defend things that are not constitutionally legal and that are not part of the constitution. cenk: i love that you made that point, i think that's exactly right. i want to thank you for being on and james the owner of silence which you could help on kick starter, looks like an amazing movie. thank you both for joining us, really appreciate it. >> when we come back, the tea party, grassroots organization that just started recently, right? wrong again bob. when we come back, we'll show you evidence that the koch brothers have been planning it since 2002. >> there are about 3,000 local tea parties around the country. we're funded really by the spare change in the couch. has foam power to stop dirt in its tracks. it penetrates deep within your carpet removing 3 times more dirt than vacuuming alone. leaving the busiest areas of your carpets,
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party, popped up because of the concern about the bailouts. the cofounder of the national tea party coalition on fox news. >> i think we heard this originally from nancy pelosi that billionaires fund the movement. >> there are about 3,000 local tea parties around the country and we're funded really by the spare change in the couch that people put together, so no, we don't get any conservative billionaire money at the grassroots level. cenk: oh oh, no, no, no. of course not. that's until a study was done finding interesting things. they are actually funded by the tobacco companies and have been for a long time, and of course by the koch brothers.
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here's an interesting screen capture from an old website welcome to the u.s. tea party. it was formed around 2008, right? if you look at the bottom there, yeah, that's the copyright from 2002, from citizens for a sound economy, a group run by the koch brothers. stay with me, of course, they've been planning it all along. i want to bring in a guest here, brandon demel director of the smogblog.com. thanks for joining us. tell me more about the citizens for a sound economy. how long have they been planning this grassroots tea party? >> thanks for having me, cenk. yeah, citizens for a sound economy was a group funded by the coke brothers in the 1980's and in 2002 launched the teaparty.com website, seven years ahead of the popular uprising that we've been led to believe by the tea party was a
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grassroots community level uprising. in fact, this has been in the works for at least a decade, and in fact as the study shows, back in the 1980's, the tobacco industry and other oil billionaires were plotting this through creating a network of astroturf front groups to represent their interests. as we all know, there's nobody that has less credibility than congress than the oil industry, and tobacco industries, since they were busted for lying to us about the detectiveness of their products, so the citizens for a sound economy ultimately became two grooms poor familiar to people these days, freedom works and americans for prosperity, which is still stared by david koch. these are groups ostensibly represent the grassroots but in fact are representing the interests of oil billionaires and not the american public. cenk: between 1991 and tow phillip morris put in
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$5.3 million to citizens for a sound economy. now, they didn't do that for their health or certainly for your health. they did it so they can get this fake grassroots to try to pretend like i can't believe you would tax the tobacco companies or regulate them in any way. this is broader than the tobacco companies, isn't it? whether it's the energy companies, the health care companies, the whole idea here is to get people and genuine people who i bet really believe it to come and basically work for these companies for their own interests for free, basically. it's a bit of a genius plan, isn't it? >> it really is. i mean, the tobacco companies in the memos uncovered with this research, it shows that the tobacco companies were talking about how they wanted to create a movement based around what they called platforms like liberty and freedom and choice, these values laden terms that
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define us as americans. they were going to use this movement to protect their narrow interests and do it to fight against tobacco excise taxes and any action on climate change. they were going to attack science whenever it was deemed necessary to protect their interests. they would rather have us all driving around in s.u.v.s and change smoking all day and hooking our kids on cigarettes. they are not interested in average americans paycheck stability and health care. it's ginned up to protect a very narrow set of interests. cenk: it's amazing how long they've been doing it. i sympathize with the tea party's interests. thank you for joining us on "the young turks." we're going to lighten it up a little bit. are l.a. women different than women in other cities and are
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they unbearable? ♪ ♪? we're back on "the young
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turks." i've got the whole "young turks" i can't hear the actual "young turks." maureen, one of our producers are and an egyptian correspondent, ana kasparian. first time appearance! >> and a secret conservative. >> what? >> i love that you disagree with me. assemble this all star team, we're going to talk about a very important topic l.a. women. a video on line has gone viral about the women of l.a.
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let's watch a little bit. ♪ this is a story about how i moved to hollywood to get shot down by girls so hot that you can't kiss when your face looks like andy dick. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ cenk: now, i don't disagree with him that much, but there's some chance he might have had issues in cleveland. am i being too harsh women? >> this video's like there's no shocking truth bombs here that the short round comedian can't get laid. i'm sure the truth carries over in miami, new york, cleveland
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everywhere it's just a whiney dude. >> i like that he's self deprecating. he's gotten a lot of heat from progressive women but i'm going to be the bad guy and say get over it. it's a joke, it's funny. i enjoyed it. >> i think it's partly a joke, but i do have a problem that the whole goal is to get women drunk to sleep with them. if you have to get a woman drunk to sleep with her you have to look at yourself and see what you're doing wrong. maybe you have to have a personality, maybe be a little charming. >> you're right and i should just shut my mouth but i can't help it. every guy who's gone to college step one get everybody drunk. ok including yourself, so you lose your inhibition. that's as american as apple pie. >> these are grown men who are going out and actually making fun of a woman for being scared of a d.u.i. in that one clip, if you watch the whole video, i mean. cenk: but let me go to the guy. wait, i think that's the truest
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thing in the video because like in l.a., nobody's ever drunk ok, good thing right because everybody drivers like three hours, because l.a.'s so large so everybody's stone cold sober aren't they? >> that's true. first of all as the only single guy on the panel i have to say i fully disagree with these stereotypes and l.a. has the most wonderful -- [ laughter ] >> that i've ever met. i don't drive by choice and i've never run into any of the frustrations that this guy has. cenk: that's a problem. james chooses not to drive a lot of women do. what this does, the worst thing it does, the serious sides of it, it brings these mischaracterizations of the city of l.a. every corner, you say you can drive three hours. every corner has a different kind of women in it. don't go to sunset, don't go to hollywood, go to silver lake, go to the beaches. there's a difference everywhere
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you go. >> he does go to silver lake, but the hipsters are not into him, amazingly so. cenk: when i lived in miami people would say how can he live there, everybody is empty. there's plenty of brilliant people in miami depends who you're hanging out with. come on guys, isn't there a kernel of truth that people are looking out the corner of their eye to see who is popular. >> women in d.c. are looking for the most powerful politician. it's not symbolic of only angelinas. >> women are attracted to power. >> i'm an actor it's like really let's look up. caller: mdb. cenk: the classic mistake is when you list too many things,
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actor, writer producer, director, in other words none of it. keep it real. i want to play one more clip. let's watch this. ♪ >> you're a joke, because you're broke. we're the women in l.a. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ cenk: ok. it's raw. i lived in new york. i lived in a lot of places. new york was awesome as a single guy. you walk you the everybody's stumbling, bumbling drunk and having fun. nobody drove. >> honestly, people still drink and drive here. it's not like when we go out everybody's sober just because they're driving. there are people drinking. cenk: i don't want them to drink and drive but the ironic thing is we're going to have a
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discussion about public transportation. >> it's the way to go. trying to get you guys on the train, so to speak for months. >> you take buses and stuff. >> i do. i take the train to work. cenk: there's no way in the world you're getting to woman to go on the bus with you and go back home. that's never happened. >> maybe a subway train, maybe a taxi cab. cenk: you're splurging on the taxi. >> the best part is you'll end up -- it works. in college in reality women don't go out just to not get laid. they're looking for it, too. if you're charming enough. cenk: of course, we're both human beings. >> the premise was they're looking to shoot you down. the ones who shoot you down stay home. >> i don't think that's true. men don't want to do the work. just because you offer a girl a drink doesn't mean she's going to go hem with you.
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cenk: to which i say of course! of course! but the flip side is in l.a., when i was single, i showed up on dates with my pontiac grand am. i got plenty of dates but there were a couple of women who were like you're kidding. >> bmw and mercedes drivers do it, it works. cenk: it does work. when we come back, one final point you don't want to miss.
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